About the guest: Shane Farmer

Founder of Dark Horse Rowing; coach and educator on rowing technique and conditioning.

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I just hope that at the end of the day, my my column of people who have had a positive change because of our interaction in some way, whether it be digital or personal. I hope that that column is higher than the things that I’ve taken for myself. Yeah. absolutely. Momet, where do you think that came from? Do I cut drive? – Pardon the silence, I’m gonna think. You know, I think intrinsically I’m unsure. I don’t know that I could pinpoint it other than to my accumulation of experiences. So going, stepping back into high school, I didn’t have, I wasn’t, let’s say gifted with much.

I played the trumpet, I had acne, I was a little bit chubby, not a good athlete and a terrible student, right? Oh, and I have braces. So like, let’s say that on my column of like attractiveness to the other sex, as well as like just succeeding at life, I was a little bit behind the eyeball. So, and I have big ears. ” – So, and if you haven’t seen me before, I have decent, like my ears stick out. ” Most of my childhood. So, and it’s funny. I love this. I still get those comments sometimes on YouTube. Where it’s like, you have kidding me, dude.

Like, what are you talking about? Like, how can you still be saying that kind of stuff? It’s probably like 14 year old kids somewhere in the world. But now I have to laugh at that. But back when I was, you know, when I was 14, 13, like that was devastating to me. It was really hard. And so I never had where I was like, yeah, I mean, I’m just like killing it at life. Never had that feeling. – I was gonna ask you, will you like the homecoming king or the homecoming? – Oh, so far from it. It’s not even funny. Like that wasn’t even, I couldn’t have even my first dance until my senior year and I was so uncomfortable I didn’t dance because I didn’t.

Now I love dancing by the way if you put me around music I have at four weddings now torn my pants because I’m so like four weddings, four separate soup pants. I dance. – I don’t have a huge giant– – No, no, I don’t have a giant butt, I have big thighs. And so my thighs grab the soup pants and I’m talking full on blowouts. Zipper all the way to my back belt. All all the way around I have to make sure that I’m wearing underwear whenever I go to a wedding because I know there’s a and I There’s a little inside tip if you blow out your pants always bring a second pair of pants to a wedding and have them stored aside somewhere so that you can change into them when you do like Yeah,, you’re like me.

– This is the best. Someone does, like you. – Yeah. – Inside Jip. – Yeah. – So now it’s become a thing, like friends ask that I blow out my pants at their wedding. I don’t do it on request, just for the record. I just love dancing. I get, I love dancing. I’ve always thought like my next career like, you know, when Dark Horse gets to the point where things are just like on and I have somebody else who’s really helping me run things and I will move into the dance realm. I will probably try and take on like hip hop dance or something because I love that.

– This is the best. – So yeah. So anyways, I really didn’t have a whole lot of confidence. Probably until I was like 22, 23. Did I really start to feel like I was comfortable with myself? And so I did this like little interesting experience, interesting experiment. Because I kind of crossed barriers. Because I was was in sports I at least had access to the cool kids but I was not one and but also because I had big years and I was kind of chubby and I had acne and braces and I played the trumpet and I was in every single band that you could that there was at the school you know I was on that side of things too which you know anybody that has been through high high school knows that those two things don’t sit in the same camp.

And so I towed that line between access to both, and I never really committed to either. And so I kind of played the middle ground. But because of my experience as being teased a lot as a kid, I also wanted to try and I did this little experiment my junior year where I wanted to change that for other kids at my school who were being teased and who weren’t getting a fair shape. And again, because of my connection on the sports side where I had access to the jocks like I could get away with a little bit more You know because I was at least out there on the field with them And so I would actively find the kids who are sitting alone at lunch and I would just pull up and sit with them whether or not, you know, we turn in friends or when I was not like that didn’t matter and matter and inevitably they always assumed the first time I was there was to like give them shit or to make fun of them or something and often we just sit there kind of quietly eating lunch together and I would try to repeat that effort over and over and over until it got to a point where we kind of broken down that barrier of which group we were in and that person could feel some level of acceptance.

So I think that that changed, that shift to me, I can’t tell you why I decided to do that. I get well, I guess it was because I had known what it felt like and I really hated it and that through sport, I ended up being able to fend it off, not that I fully left it behind, but I was able to fend it off. I wanted to give that back to somebody else who wasn’t in sport. I don’t know, I guess, so that’s the intrinsic component. I started that by saying, I don’t know the intrinsic component, but the more you talk, the more you discover.

And the extrinsic component, I guess, would be my dad, very empathetic and humble man. And I learned a lot from him in his ability to talk to people and his ability to create conversation with anybody. And I don’t know that I’ve ever seen my dad look at other people through a filter. I’ve never seen him try to impose a filter on anyone that he’s talked to. He takes everybody just at face value, which is pretty remarkable. There aren’t a lot of people that do that, that won’t pass a judgment the first time they meet somebody and talk to them.

My nettle sit down and talk to anybody. Color of skin, hair color, like your hair could be dyed pink, you could have painted nails as a guy and you could weigh 250 pounds of raw muscle and my dad would sit there and talk to you just like you’re the male man. There’s no filter for him and so I think that probably extrinsically was a guide for me. running this podcast is how do I find my purpose? And people are always writing to me and they’re like all the people that you have on the podcast find it so easy to say what their purpose is.

Like it’s just straight away. And I think just just listening to you speak now is it’s made it really obvious to me that we’re all afraid of purpose. Like a lot of people are really afraid of having a purpose because once you acknowledge that your purpose is and you’ve said like it’s to leave the world better and impact the world, once you acknowledge that that is actually important to you and you put it out there whether it’s internally or externally, you’ve got to do something about it. And I think that we are so conditioned to not having a purpose to just following the rules that someone else has said that we think to ourselves that we haven’t got a purpose We pretend that we haven’t got a purpose because once we acknowledge it we have to do something about it and I absolutely love it And this is why and it’s like come full circle in our conversation here is You’re living out what you do and the content of the way that you do it doesn’t matter like it actually doesn’t matter the medium doesn’t matter the details don’t matter.

It doesn’t matter if it’s rowing. And I said to you yesterday that I think your greatest strength is you walk into a room and you can shift the energy. And you can without saying anything. And you’re one of those people and it’s not that you walk into the room and you’re like, everybody look at me at all. And it’s not that you expect everybody to come up to your energy or anything, but you somehow shift the energy that everybody leaves an interaction with you knowing they can actually be better and their life can be better and it’s not a conscious like I will be better It’s just they feel something is lit inside them and they can go off and do it and you just do it It’s like you light it up and it’s amazing and I love I love that we’ve come all the way around because I want people to know don’t get bogged down in the details It.

It’s not about, if you want to start a business, it’s not about, you know, ticking off the list of having a website and getting a photographer, those details don’t matter. Start with what your purpose is. Start with the fact that you’re here to impact the world or start with the fact that you’re here, like we’re in food lab, it’s like the greatest and… – This place is amazing. – We love it so much, but it’s like you can feel when you walk into this space that this is a space where they want people to love and experience food and cooking and you can feel it whether anybody’s in here or not and that’s why it was created and I love it.

It’s like whatever medium it takes, like it doesn’t matter and like it just takes you actually starting. Yeah and to add to that that I don’t know that when I started all of this, even when I started down the path, like my first day of coaching, I don’t know that I could have told you my purpose. I don’t know that I could have at the time identified that. And I think a lot of people can also get scared because they couldn’t articulate what their purpose is. They may feel it, they may get, I think of it as like a flicker and candle.

It may flicker for a moment. ” And then it kind of goes dim. And they have this moment of like, “Oh, that that felt really good and then it’s kind of gone. And the only way to get to the point where we consider and have this conversation and I can talk about what I, what my purpose is, is because of an accumulation of moments where I have had to identify that and I’ve had to clarify that. But again, when I started this path seven years ago, at that time, I didn’t start with the purpose. It wasn’t like, yep, I get like written down, it’s my mission statement.

It was something that I had to discover through action. And I think that’s kind of what you’re getting at. You just have to start. You just have to move. Because if you don’t move, it’s impossible to make the entire thing happen at once. This was part of our conversation last night. None of this can happen. The picture that you see is never going to happen in one time. None of us have, none of us. – No. – Four emphasis, I’m gonna raise my voice. None of us have had that happen. You see an insta-famous somebody. Maybe they get that flash in the pan because they’ve done something either extraordinary in one moment But guess what just because they land, you know, whatever 50,000 followers over a few days because of something extraordinary that’s all gone in a month because there’s zero substance behind it if you want to create a a lasting life and a life that you love, you need to put substance behind it and that substance grows over time.

It’s like adding in ingredients to a recipe. – Or getting fit. – Or getting fit. – It doesn’t happen like that. – Right. – Even if you get a good result straight up, it’s like you have to like add layers. – Yeah. And imagine trying to make a pizza by just taking every single wrong greeting and just throwing it into a giant pot and throwing it in the oven would you get pizza no hell no I don’t know about like the raw flour but like yeah but you get what I’m saying like you you can’t just throw it all and like boom, you’ve got purpose and the life that you’re living.

You have to very meticulously decide on every ingredient and you add it and then you kind of sit there and stare at it and go, all right, so what would the next ingredient to add to this be? And that’s all like it’s problem solving thing. – And you might do it and it tastes terrible. And then it’s like, wait a second, they’ll try again. – Yeah, exactly. You’re like, okay, so that ingredient didn’t work. Let me ditch that one. – Yeah. – Let me try that again. So you accumulate the ingredients that have worked so far.

You’re like, all right, so let’s figure out the next one. Try a second time. – And if you gave up, when you didn’t work the first time, you might never have pizza. – Yeah, and everybody’s lives would be so much worse off because none of us would have pizza. – I love. That was like the greatest ever. But it’s actually true and I think that it’s it’s so funny because when you do get to a point where you like love your life or however you want to describe it and when you feel like you’re on your way It’s like you laugh at the times and things didn’t go right.

Yeah, cuz that’s a majority of your path like it Like it’s hilarious. And it’s exactly, and it’s like, I think that your poop story where you had to sort through people’s poop, I feel like that’s a real turning point in your life. But it’s like, that led you to where you are right now. And the most important thing I guess with what I think is that you need to sit up and pay attention to what feels good and what doesn’t feel good and take action on it. And it’s like not actually just settle for it and learn from it.

And I think that’s something that you just like a huge advocate of. It’s like teaching and learning at the exact same moment. And I was amazed because I met you on Wednesday and I was a bit nervous and pretty excited and everything. And we get there and we’re doing a ski relay. And I mean you’ve gone to the CrossFit Games, you’re like rowing king, you’re like coaching king, you look a bit like a movie star. And then you’re like, I’m happy to take your lead on this on the ski. Like any correction you have for me, just give it to me straight away.

And I was a bit like, oh my God, okay. And you were just so open to it. But it’s like, you are so willing to learn, and you’re so willing to put yourself in a situation where you’re not necessarily the best. And it’s like that is what all those tiny little actions that you’ve taken are what’s led you to doing what you’re doing. – I think it’s best summarized by a song from one of the greatest movies of, yeah, yeah, yeah… yes, it’s my theme.

Yeah, the original sister act. Go watch it. I think that is like the perfect place to end. com/Darkhorse. Dark rowing or just dark horse rowing dark horse rowing on YouTube and there’ll be some pretty cool stuff I’m coming up that we’ve been getting up to which will be great, but also a lot of gene in there lots. Yeah, maybe too much You can’t have too much to analyze you would know this podcast and definitely jump on his Instagram and it’s just like it’s been such a pleasure like meeting you, knowing you, learning from you, even teaching you.

It’s just been like you’ve really impacted my life and like it’s so cool because that’s not even what you set out to do. And so it just shows that when you have a mission like you do, it’s like you can’t help but do it. So it’s really great. Well, thank you. I appreciate that. And the feeling is very mutual based off of, again, every moment that we’ve had here has, the way I described it last night is sometimes, hopefully some of you have felt this. At some point in your life, you get into the zone on something, whatever it may be.

Maybe you’re at work and all of a sudden three hours flies by and you actually worked for three hours and you come up for like wow I don’t know why but I was just super productive or you are running and you just like you nothing can stop you right those moments of being in the zone that has been what our entire time here together has been and So much of that is your energy and what you bring to the table and you know We’re talking about this last night like I don’t know somebody I’ve never met somebody who can walk into a space like Jane can and so immediately engage somebody like She’s I called her the opener last night right because like she can walk in and in under ten seconds be fully engaged in the conversation with somebody she has never met as if they’ve been talking for an hour and I walk like I walk into a space and I really have to kind of sit and like settle with the energy and I need to kind of feel it out and and pick up Pick up different things and you like make it.

Yeah, you it happen. So I totally understand why everybody listens to you because like you are a doer, you are, you’re the opener, right? Like you can open any conversation, any door, you can talk to anyone and it is so impactful and I think that has been a huge part of why this is so conducive, right? You opened up the ability for us to have this and then I’m comfortable sitting and like kind of letting it settle and then I’m like yeah let’s get into it, right? And we just kind of start like grooving and all of a sudden we’ve been in the zone since Wednesday.

What is it? Sunday? Wednesday through Sunday and we still have two days left and it’s showing no signs of slowing down. It’s it’s speeding up. Yeah, it is speeding up like every day We like that we’ve been starting earlier and going later. Yeah, and so like and it’s just like and it’s even more energetic every day. It doesn’t change something. It’s slowing down or either of us is getting bored of this totally Thank you. Oh, thank you so much. Thank you everyone so much for listening and for all the support over like nearly two years now, which has been so fun and so cool and it’s not the end your evolution podcast will absolutely still be going and peanut butter podcast will definitely be going as well and you’ll have to listen to it to find out why it’s called the peanut butter podcast.

I’m excited for now. Yeah, and now after you’ve introduced me to “Specular Spotter”, Shane and I have realised that we both have this kind of crazy obsession with the gingerbread splice, basically. So gingerbread, we love it. And “Speculars” is the core ingredient basically in gingerbread and it comes from the Netherlands. And somehow in one of the very first conversations with Shane, I told him I love it. I don’t know how like you discover that so quickly between two people. But it was in the first few hours. But he took me to trade a jury’s here.

They have speculous butter, which is basically peanut butter, but it’s gingerbread. So it’s like eating gingerbread with a spoon. And it’s the best. So but I don’t know what a specless butter podcast is The cookie butter podcast. – Yes, you know what you should do. I’m gonna put this out there. I’m gonna make this challenge for you. – Okay. – For all of you that are listening, and I fully support this, you should have some kind of a challenge for the listeners. Take back four jars of cookie butter and use it as a prize for any Australians that are listening.

– This is the greatest idea ever. – Like this, if you’re listening right now, like you should be like kicking and scratching at your competition to win whatever the challenge is. – Yeah. – What is that challenge? I’m putting her on the spot right now. She has not. – I have it. – I had a brief talk about this. – I had a brief talk about this. – I had a brief talk about this. – In the podcast. – No. – Okay, so what do you think the challenge should be? Do you think it. I had a free hug with it. I had a free hug with it.

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I’ve got the gold over here. Yeah. Yeah. And it’s something about a video of you like getting like having fun like playing doing something that is not necessarily What is socially acceptable like whether it’s we’re rolling around your house chasing a five-month-old puppy or whether it’s just you know being wrestling your dog in the park Yeah, like just sliding down a slide. Yeah, like at a kid’s part totally, you know running down the street actually just you know Showing an emotion that you previously may not have shown.

– Yeah. – Love it. – Absolutely. – I don’t want a video or a photo and you will get gold in a jar. – Yeah, exactly. How many are you gonna give a one? Like two, four? – Four. – Okay, so. – Because then they can have each variety, smooth with chocolate and crunchy times two, crunchy times two. – Crunchy times two. – Crunchy times two, two, because it’s actually got cookies in it. Yeah, okay. Australian’s only for shipping purposes. Oh yeah, Australian’s only for your sake. I love that you’re saying something I’m like that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Australian entries own, well, anybody can enter. I mean, if you come to my house and pick it up, you can have it. Yeah. If you’re not from Australia. Yeah. And tell you what, I will even contribute, I will, I will pitch in four jars from San Diego. Yes, so we can take domestic entries as well so Americans Americans you can enter as well I love it and I will so with eight jars eight jars of cookie butter trader Joe’s cookie butter makes it over my long haul flight I’m gonna have to check it otherwise I’ll be sitting on the plane with a spoon, eating the whole thing.

– I love that we just grabbed this challenge. – So, this is so good. – Okay. com. Surprisingly enough. farma Thank you so much for listening I really look forward to seeing some of your posts and I really look forward to setting up this cookie butter and sharing that love. Thank you. Bye.

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